HMCo #823s Poilu
Particulars
Type: Buzzards Bay 15 Footer
Designed by: NGH
Contract: 1917-3-17
Construction: Wood
LOA: 24' 6" (7.47m)
LWL: 15' (4.57m)
Beam: 6' 9" (2.06m)
Draft: 2' 3" (0.69m)
Rig: Sloop
Sail Area: 353sq ft (32.7sq m)
Displ.: 2,432 lbs (1,103 kg)
Keel: yes
Centerboard: yes
Ballast: Lead
Built for: Warner, F. [Winsor?]
Amount: $1,100.00
Note: Particulars are primarily but not exclusively from the HMCo Construction Record. Supplementary information not from the Construction Record appears elsewhere in this record with a complete citation.
Images
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Jones, Leslie (1886-1967). "Poilu [#823s.]" Photograph, negative no. 08_06_033572, ca. 1938.
Further Image Information
Created by: Jones, Leslie (1886-1967).
Image Caption: "Sailboat 'Poilu' ends up on bridge, Hurricane of 38."
Negative Number: 08_06_033572
Image Date: 1938-9 ?
Collection: Leslie Jones Collection, Boston Public Library, 08_06_033572.
Image is copyrighted: Yes, used with permission
Copyright holder: Boston Public Library, Leslie Jones Collection.
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Jones, Leslie (1886-1967). "Poilu [#823s.]" Photograph, negative no. 08_06_033571, ca. 1938.
Further Image Information
Created by: Jones, Leslie (1886-1967).
Image Caption: "Sailboat 'Poilu' ends up on bridge, Hurricane of 38."
Negative Number: 08_06_033571
Image Date: 1938-9 ?
Collection: Leslie Jones Collection, Boston Public Library, 08_06_033571.
Image is copyrighted: Yes, used with permission
Copyright holder: Boston Public Library, Leslie Jones Collection.
![Jones, Leslie (1886-1967). "Poilu [#823s.]" Photograph, negative no. 08_06_033571, ca. 1938.](../Images_Vessels/Big/S00823_Poilu_after_1938_hurricane_LeslieJonesPhoto_b.jpg){kind=link}
Model
Model number: 711
Vessels from this model:
92 built, modeled by NGH
Original text on model:
"Buzzards Bay 15 footers No. 503 class December 4, 1898 scale 1/12
No. 559 LITTLE ROBIN with keel for 4' draft shear raised 4" 16' 3" w.l. 1903 by keel 22" deep" (Source: Original handwritten annotation on model. Undated.)
Model Description:
"15' lwl Buzzards Bay 15-class keel/centerboard sloops of 1898 and later. Also slightly deeper Newport 15-class, Marconi-rigged Watch Hill 15-class, the 16'4" lwl keel sloop Little Robin with freeboard added of 1901, the 15' lwl Flicker of 1907, etc. #513s Hope and #880s Josephine are in the collection of the Herreshoff Marine Museum." (Source: Bray, Maynard. 2004.)
Note: Vessels that appear in the records as not built, a cancelled contract, a study model, or as a model sailboat are listed but not counted in the list of vessels built from a model.
Offsets
Offset booklet number(s): HH.4.113
Offset booklet contents:
#503 - #509, #511, #513, #516, #518 - #519, #521, #525 - #528, #535, #540, #543 - #544, #550, #554, #556 - #559, #577, #584 - #585, #609, #645, #674 (changes), #880-class [15' w.l. Buzzards Bay 15'-class sloops et. al].
Offset Booklet(s) in Haffenreffer-Herreshoff Collection. Francis Russell Hart Nautical Collections, MIT Museum, Cambridge, Mass. (Restricted access --- see curator.)
Note: "Reference to offset booklet HH.4.113 was added by CvdL because this boat was built from the same construction plan as other sisterships that were specifically mentioned in it." (Source: van der Linde, Claas. April 24, 2021.)
Drawings
List of drawings:
Drawings believed to have been first drawn for, or being first referenced to
HMCo #823s Poilu are listed in bold.
Click on Dwg number for preview, on HH number to see at M.I.T. Museum.
- Dwg 075-000 (HH.5.05468); Construction Dwg > Fiddler - Buzzard's Bay 15 ft. Class, 24'-10" L.O.A., 15'-0" L.W.L., 6'-9 1/2" B., 2'-3 1/2" D. (1959 ?)
- Dwg 096-107 (HH.5.08067.1): Sails > 15 ft. One Design Class for 1899 (1898-11-19)
- Dwg 130-062 (HH.5.10365); Sails > 15 ft. One Design Class for 1899 (1898-11-19)
- Dwg 127-066 (HH.5.09934): Sails > Sails Buzzards Bay 15 Footers (1898-12-06)
- Dwg 076-006 (HH.5.05473); Construction Dwg > One Design Class 15 Footers for Buzzard's Bay (1898-12-28)
- Dwg 060-039 (HH.5.04262); Centreboard for Nos. 503 - 509, 513, 516, Buzzards Bay 15-Footers (1898-12-30)
- Dwg 064-034 (HH.5.04510); Rudder, etc. for Nos. 503-509, 513, 516, 704, Buzzard's Bay 15 Footers (1898-12-31)
- Dwg 091-056 (HH.5.07327): Running Rigging for 15-Footers, Standing Rigging No. 503, 509 and Others (ca. 1899)
- Dwg 091-056 (HH.5.07327.1): Running Rigging for 15-Footers, Standing Rigging No. 503, 509 and Others (ca. 1899)
- Dwg 091-056 (HH.5.07327.2): Running Rigging for 15-Footers, Standing Rigging No. 503, 509 and Others (ca. 1899)
- Dwg 091-056 (HH.5.07327.3): Running Rigging for 15-Footers, Standing Rigging No. 503, 509 and Others (ca. 1899)
- Dwg 091-056 (HH.5.07326); Block and Metal List for # 503, Buzzard's Bay 15 ft. Class (1899-01-05)
- Dwg 080-065 (N/A): Spars for 15 Footers Buzzard's Bay (1899-01-11 ?)
- Dwg 078-049 (HH.5.05765): Spreaders for 15 ft. Special Class # 503 (1899-03-27)
- Dwg 034-077 (HH.5.02488): Buzzard Bay Boats - Cradle for Fifteen Footer (1900-05-12)
- Dwg 079-077 (HH.5.05886): Bobstay Plate and Hook # 513 and 556 (15 Footers) (1901-05-01)
- Dwg 081-014 (HH.5.06102); Boom Crutch for 15 Footers # 503 etc. (1902-08-01)
- Dwg 091-158 (HH.5.07436): 15' W.L. Class [Rigging List] (1904-05-10)
- Dwg 034-108 (HH.5.02518): Cradle for Buzzards Bay 30 Footers Used Also for # 701 and A Buzzards Bay 15 Footer (1911-06-07)
- Dwg 096-107 (HH.5.08067): Sails > 15 ft. One Design Class of 1899 (1912-06-13)
- Dwg 096-124 (): Sails > [Sail Plan for] Buzzards Bay 15ft Class (1921-10-03 ?)
- Dwg 096-124 (HH.5.08086): Sails > Spinnaker for Buzzards Bay 15 Footer (1926-04-29)
- Dwg 130-000 (HH.5.10547): Sails > Buzzard's Bay 15 Footer (1934-12-27)
- Dwg 148-000 (HH.5.12217); Sails > Buzzard's Bay 15 Footer with Marconi Rig (1934-12-27)
- Dwg 075-000 (HH.5.05469); Sails > Fiddler - Buzzard's Bay 15 ft. Class (ca. 1959)
Note: The Haffenreffer-Herreshoff Collection is copyrighted by the Francis Russell Hart Nautical Collections of the MIT Museum in Cambridge, Mass. Permission to incorporate information from it in the Herreshoff Catalogue Raisonné is gratefully acknowledged. The use of this information is permitted solely for research purposes. No part of it is to be published in any form whatsoever.
Documents
Nathanael G. Herreshoff
"... Buzzards Bay 15 [Name], 503+ [Building Number], 16.8 [Rating], 15 [Waterline], 16.56 [L = length at 1/4 beam as for Universal Rule], 5.98 [B = breadth of waterline as for Universal Rule], 2.4 [d = draft of water as for Universal Rule], 38 [D = displacement in cubic foot as for Universal Rule (= 2,432 lbs or 1.1 long tons)], 352.5 [Sail Area], 500 [Sail limit Present rule], -147.5 [Diff.], 326 [Sail limit Proposed rule], 26.5 [Diff.], Requires crew to windward [Notes] ..." (Source: Herreshoff, N. G. "Formula for Obtaining the Limit of Sail-Area in Yachts when Measured by the Universal Rule Formula." Bristol, R.I., July 13, 1907 with later additions. Original handwritten (in ink) document with penciled additions. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MRDE06_00080.)
"Also in 1899, the Buzzards Bay Fifteen Footers started, first with an order of seven, but augmented to seventeen. This class has been added to for thirty-one years, so there have been about eighty built." (Source: Herreshoff, N. G. "Some of the Boats I Have Sailed In." Written 1934. In: Pinheiro, Carlton J. (ed.). Recollections and Other Writings by Nathanael G. Herreshoff. Bristol, 1998, p. 67.)
Further Reading
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Cheever, David. "The Herreshoff Fifteens." The Log of Mystic Seaport, v. 24, No. 2., Summer 1972, p. 38-44. (106 kB)
Document is copyrighted: Yes. Short class history, detailed vessel description and appreciation and a thrilling account of a typical race of Buzzards Bay 15 at the Beverly Yacht Club. Special focus on #554s Fiddler ex-Nora, now in the collection of Mystic Seaport Museum. -
Brainerd, Alec with Bernard H. Gustin and Steven K. Nagy. "The Herreshoff 15 is Alive and Well." In: Herreshoff Marine Museum (Publisher). Proceedings. The Classic Yacht Symposium 2010. Bristol, R.I. 2010. (5,834 kB)
Document is copyrighted: Yes. Copyright holder: Alec Brainerd, Bernard H. Gustin, Steven K. Nagy / Herreshoff Marine Museum. Class history, construction and restoration comments, building and sailing a replica, detailed class register (including replicas). Photos, drawings. -
van der Linde, Claas. "Herreshoff 15-Footers: Building Dates and Model Variations." December 7, 2021. (380 kB)
Document is copyrighted: Yes, used with permission. Copyright holder: Claas van der Linde. Tabular summary of Herreshoff 15-footer construction dates and model variations. Together with information of BB15 sail numbers, boat names and boat owners from various year books of the Beverly Yacht Club.
Supplement
From the 1920 and earlier HMCo Index Cards at the MIT Museum
- Note: The vessel index cards comprise two sets of a total of some 3200 cards about vessels built by HMCo, with dimensions and information regarding drawings, later or former vessel names, and owners. They were compiled from HMCo's early days until 1920 and added to in later decades, apparently by Hart Nautical curator William A. Baker and his successors. While HMCo seems to have used only one set of index cards, all sorted by name and, where no name was available, by number, later users at MIT apparently divided them into two sets of cards, one sorted by vessel name, the other by vessel number and greatly expanded the number of cards. Original HMCo cards are usually lined and almost always punched with a hole at bottom center while later cards usually have no hole, are unlined, and often carry substantially less information. All cards are held by the Francis Russell Hart Nautical Collections of the MIT Museum in Cambridge, Mass. and permission to display is gratefully acknowledged.
From the 2000 (ca.) Transcription of the HMCo Construction Record by Vermilya/Bray
Month: Mar
Day: 17
Year: 1917
E/P/S: S
No.: 0823
OA: 24'
LW: 15'
B: 6' 9"
D: 2' 3"
Rig: J & M
K: y
Ballast: Lead
Amount: 1100.00
Last Name: Winsor
First Name: H.
Source: Vermilya, Peter and Maynard Bray. "Transcription of the HMCo. Construction Record." Unpublished database, ca. 2000.
Note: The transcription of the HMCo Construction Record by Peter Vermilya and Maynard Bray was performed independently (and earlier) than that by Claas van der Linde. A comparison of the two transcriptions can be particularly useful in those many cases where the handwriting in the Construction Record is difficult to decipher.
Link to the Herreshoff Registry
The Herreshoff Registry, founded by Steve Nagy and later administered by Teeter Bibber, can be particularly useful for researching the provenance of Herreshoff-built sailing vessels. Permission to link to the Registry is gratefully acknowledged! Note: The Herreshoff Registry was offline in Spring of 2022. As a temporary measure here is a link to a backup file from January 2021. It is unclear how much the Registry has been updated since then.
Research Note(s)
"Regular Buzzards Bay 15s had a 15-foot waterline, 6' 9" beam, 2' 3" draft plus a centerboard, gaff rig, and a coaming that curves around the front of the cockpit." (Source: Nagy, Steve. June 1, 2008.)
"823 Poilu BB15-2 Winsor, Frederick." (Source: Beardsley, Bill. Email to Claas van der Linde, September 16, 2008.)
"[Sail area 352.5 sq.ft.]" (Source: Herreshoff, N. G. "Formula for Obtaining the Limit of Sail-Area in Yachts when Measured by the Universal Rule Formula." Bristol, R.I., July 13, 1907 with later additions. Original handwritten (in ink) document with penciled additions. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MRDE06_00080.)
"[Displacement (38 cubic feet = 2432 lbs).]" (Source: Herreshoff, N. G. "Formula for Obtaining the Limit of Sail-Area in Yachts when Measured by the Universal Rule Formula." Bristol, R.I., July 13, 1907 with later additions. Original handwritten (in ink) document with penciled additions. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MRDE06_00080.)
Note: Research notes contain information about a vessel that is often random and unedited but has been deemed useful for future research.
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